Comments on: The Wind That Shakes The Barley http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/ Reflections of a working writer and reader Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:06:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: chelsea http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-111341 chelsea Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:36:12 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-111341 Ken Loach has done some good movies like Kes. I do not see hatred towards the UK in his movies. These people need to grow up. We were wrong to put down the Irish. I do not see why it is anti british to say that. Is it anti German to say Hitler was wrong? <strong>jb says</strong>: I think most of us support what you're saying, Chelsea. Ken Loach has done some good movies like Kes. I do not see hatred towards the UK in his movies. These people need to grow up. We were wrong to put down the Irish. I do not see why it is anti british to say that. Is it anti German to say Hitler was wrong?

jb says: I think most of us support what you’re saying, Chelsea.

]]> By: órla http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-111044 órla Sat, 30 May 2009 14:47:23 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-111044 Excellent film. Loach has included a breif lovestory and a select amount of violence and drama so that this film is suitable for viewing by all audiences. Directed by an englishman with accurate accounts of the truth that has been disguised for too long. My hats off to you dear ken loach! Excellent film. Loach has included a breif lovestory and a select amount of violence and drama so that this film is suitable for viewing by all audiences. Directed by an englishman with accurate accounts of the truth that has been disguised for too long. My hats off to you dear ken loach!

]]> By: aine http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-69274 aine Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:53:28 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-69274 i am currently studying this film as part of my AS level media studies course. fortunatly because of this i can gain an objective understanding from both sides. i still live in the age of people who have hatred towards the British for their actions, however i feel that in todays society it should not be such an issue!!as a northern irish citizen i feel the history should most definitly be repected and remembered but times have changed and a move on from this period is needed. loach's film in my view is an excellant account of events which reduced me to tears on a number of occasions, i have herd many a tale and story from those i know who lived through the times which i, without fear openly criticise if i feel the need. however the viewing of this film surmised my views and opinions of this irish history and i do think it is an accurate account of events...with little exaggeration. brutal as it may be this film very much reflects the verismilitude of its time. although this may be hard to contend with truth cannot be denied. one point i have to add though is that in my mind i feel the irish were as bad...however with the english, "throwing the first punch". <strong>jb says</strong>: Hi Aine. Everyone, almost everyone, acts badly in a war situation. But in the case to which you refer I believe that the British government should accept the main burden of blame. They should have acted as arbiters between the different Irish factions and never have sent troops in. i am currently studying this film as part of my AS level media studies course. fortunatly because of this i can gain an objective understanding from both sides. i still live in the age of people who have hatred towards the British for their actions, however i feel that in todays society it should not be such an issue!!as a northern irish citizen i feel the history should most definitly be repected and remembered but times have changed and a move on from this period is needed. loach’s film in my view is an excellant account of events which reduced me to tears on a number of occasions, i have herd many a tale and story from those i know who lived through the times which i, without fear openly criticise if i feel the need. however the viewing of this film surmised my views and opinions of this irish history and i do think it is an accurate account of events…with little exaggeration. brutal as it may be this film very much reflects the verismilitude of its time. although this may be hard to contend with truth cannot be denied. one point i have to add though is that in my mind i feel the irish were as bad…however with the english, “throwing the first punch”.

jb says: Hi Aine. Everyone, almost everyone, acts badly in a war situation. But in the case to which you refer I believe that the British government should accept the main burden of blame. They should have acted as arbiters between the different Irish factions and never have sent troops in.

]]> By: Sean McShane http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-4249 Sean McShane Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:02:34 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-4249 I hope that those who have been able to see this sparsely distributed film, will continue to learn more about Ireland's long struggle for independence. The film is being shown all over the rest of Europe and not just in arthouse cinemas either, That must tell you something about "sour grapes". Ken Loach is like a prophet, shunned in his own country and rightfully praised everywhere else. Sean McShane. I hope that those who have been able to see this sparsely distributed film, will continue to learn more about Ireland’s long struggle for independence. The film is being shown all over the rest of Europe and not just in arthouse cinemas either, That must tell you something about “sour grapes”. Ken Loach is like a prophet, shunned in his own country and rightfully praised everywhere else.
Sean McShane.

]]> By: Lotus http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-3896 Lotus Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:22:26 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-3896 This movie is going to be showcased at the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) next week. I hadn't planned on seeing it, but seeing the conversation it has generated, I just might! This movie is going to be showcased at the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) next week. I hadn’t planned on seeing it, but seeing the conversation it has generated, I just might!

]]> By: Peter Duffy http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-3593 Peter Duffy Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:46:46 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-3593 A good film -yes - but a film that spends far too long showing the brutality of the British (we get the message very clearly that they were abusive, screaming and violent thugs within the first 20 minutes!). More time should have been devoted to establishing characters / relationships (so that you actually cared about what happens to them, which I didnt) and also to the far more interesting aspect of the discord/violence that erupted between the Irish themselves. A good film -yes – but a film that spends far too long showing the brutality of the British (we get the message very clearly that they were abusive, screaming and violent thugs within the first 20 minutes!). More time should have been devoted to establishing characters / relationships (so that you actually cared about what happens to them, which I didnt) and also to the far more interesting aspect of the discord/violence that erupted between the Irish themselves.

]]> By: Camillus http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-3015 Camillus Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:03:53 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-3015 Anybody with a brain capable of independent thought should see that the bullshit from these "reviewers" who haven't even seen the film is all the more reason to see it and make their own minds up. It's a terrific film. Yes, the Black and Tans are shown as brutal, but are they really suggesting they were not? If it's full of half-truths, what is the alternative take offered by these scribes? The republicans are far from idealised - the heartbreaking killing of the young boy, the tragic fratricidal civil-war. Yes, there is politics there, but it's shown in a highly personal way, how it affected ordinary people. See it for yourself, make up your own mind. Anybody with a brain capable of independent thought should see that the bullshit from these “reviewers” who haven’t even seen the film is all the more reason to see it and make their own minds up. It’s a terrific film. Yes, the Black and Tans are shown as brutal, but are they really suggesting they were not? If it’s full of half-truths, what is the alternative take offered by these scribes? The republicans are far from idealised – the heartbreaking killing of the young boy, the tragic fratricidal civil-war. Yes, there is politics there, but it’s shown in a highly personal way, how it affected ordinary people. See it for yourself, make up your own mind.

]]> By: Cormac http://johnbakersblog.co.uk/the-wind-that-shakes-the-barley/comment-page-1/#comment-2484 Cormac Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:57:19 +0000 http://www.johnbakersblog.co.uk/?p=155#comment-2484 It's a great film. If an Irish director had made something like it, there would have been an outcry over here from the usual self-loathing stooges who try to undermine Irish nationalism. But because an Englishman made it, the criticism has been muted. It’s a great film. If an Irish director had made something like it, there would have been an outcry over here from the usual self-loathing stooges who try to undermine Irish nationalism. But because an Englishman made it, the criticism has been muted.

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